1 00:00:04,430 --> 00:00:02,600 welcome welcome to my awesome Friday 2 00:00:06,410 --> 00:00:04,440 evening you're listening to me Heidi 3 00:00:08,629 --> 00:00:06,420 Hollis the Outlander so welcome to the 4 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:08,639 show everybody it's gonna be fun as 5 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:11,040 always I trust me this show is about 6 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:13,200 bringing outlandish and interesting 7 00:00:17,689 --> 00:00:15,150 topics to the forefront from aliens 8 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:17,699 angels ghosts demons holy encounters 9 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:20,160 shadow people to Bigfoot to the 10 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:22,260 outlandish always say if it's weird 11 00:00:27,019 --> 00:00:24,480 we're here and now you're just as 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:27,029 strange as I am it's okay if you don't 13 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:28,650 know who I am when it comes to the 14 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:30,840 outlandish personally I'm someone who 15 00:00:34,610 --> 00:00:32,850 has been there seen that experienced it 16 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:34,620 freaked out found some answers I wrote 17 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:37,320 about it got over it and now I'm hoping 18 00:00:42,010 --> 00:00:38,670 to help others do the same thing and 19 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:42,020 understand that this wonderful crazy fun 20 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:45,600 fascinating world of ours if you dare go 21 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:48,510 to my main website which is Heidi Hollis 22 00:00:52,490 --> 00:00:50,670 calm you're gonna find so much stuff 23 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:52,500 there I don't know if you can handle it 24 00:00:57,170 --> 00:00:54,449 but it's okay it's okay I'm here I'm 25 00:00:59,420 --> 00:00:57,180 here and I have YouTube and Twitter and 26 00:01:01,099 --> 00:00:59,430 Facebook and all that other good stuff 27 00:01:04,189 --> 00:01:01,109 on there that you guys can connect with 28 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:04,199 me by and I also want to tell you guys 29 00:01:09,410 --> 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are shy it's okay all is forgiven but 44 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:48,140 one eight eight eight nine one nine 45 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,170 23:55 or you could go to Skype find MJ 46 00:01:57,469 --> 00:01:54,479 at inception radio network and pastor 47 00:01:59,209 --> 00:01:57,479 questions along there or go into our 48 00:02:02,030 --> 00:01:59,219 live chat room which is starting to fill 49 00:02:05,899 --> 00:02:02,040 up like crazy right now which is IR n 50 00:02:07,399 --> 00:02:05,909 chat dot-com and I'll take your 51 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:07,409 questions there just put everything in 52 00:02:11,119 --> 00:02:09,090 caps then I could see it easier because 53 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:11,129 I'm trying to do a whole bunch at once 54 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:13,710 if I don't see it in caps 55 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:14,910 it's kind of hard to go through all 56 00:02:21,950 --> 00:02:18,210 those questions so I want to tell you 57 00:02:24,230 --> 00:02:21,960 guys first off thank you so very much 58 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:24,240 for my goodness the numbers are coming 59 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:27,390 in in regards to the Outlanders comic 60 00:02:34,010 --> 00:02:32,310 and it has been phenomenal you guys I'm 61 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:34,020 so happy you're diggin my paranormal 62 00:02:39,980 --> 00:02:36,330 comic strip just go to the Outlanders 63 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:39,990 comic calm or write on the main page of 64 00:02:45,650 --> 00:02:41,730 inception radio network calm and you 65 00:02:49,250 --> 00:02:45,660 will see the comics there and and it's 66 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:49,260 it's been a wild ride but there's still 67 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:52,800 more to be done so anyways you know it's 68 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:54,420 so funny I'm sitting here I'm talking 69 00:02:58,730 --> 00:02:56,220 and I'm getting messages popping up on 70 00:03:00,890 --> 00:02:58,740 my phone it's just crazy I'm so if you 71 00:03:06,950 --> 00:03:00,900 guys hear little booties that's yeah 72 00:03:08,540 --> 00:03:06,960 anyways I have to tell you what we are 73 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:08,550 going to do the for the first 30 minutes 74 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:10,890 I am trying to stay more consistent in 75 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:14,130 doing the outlandish corner yes because 76 00:03:21,860 --> 00:03:19,260 my inbox is overflowing so what is the 77 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:21,870 outlandish corner that is where I take 78 00:03:25,940 --> 00:03:23,700 your comments your questions your emails 79 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:25,950 of anything and everything out of the 80 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:27,270 ordinary that you're experiencing out 81 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:29,850 there and need advice on and I will do 82 00:03:33,950 --> 00:03:31,290 my best to give you some advice without 83 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:33,960 a guru or psychic mentality because I 84 00:03:40,310 --> 00:03:37,890 don't have either so I welcome you to 85 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:40,320 write me through my main website Heidi 86 00:03:47,090 --> 00:03:44,370 Hollis calm or das das Outlander at 87 00:03:48,890 --> 00:03:47,100 gmail.com and I walk up people to go to 88 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:48,900 my facebook page to send me messages but 89 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:50,340 guess what Facebook likes to do they 90 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:52,290 like to filter messages if you're not my 91 00:03:58,580 --> 00:03:54,330 friend and then it piles up in the 92 00:04:01,880 --> 00:03:58,590 cesspool of filtered messages and I 93 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:01,890 don't get them and yeah I have had years 94 00:04:05,570 --> 00:04:04,110 and years of backlog let me tell you I'm 95 00:04:06,620 --> 00:04:05,580 just like I don't know if I'll ever get 96 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:06,630 through them all I didn't know they were 97 00:04:11,450 --> 00:04:09,030 sitting there so anyways I'm gonna 98 00:04:14,540 --> 00:04:11,460 invite my guest who's going to be 99 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:14,550 talking after we go through this lovely 100 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:17,970 barrage of emails but Joseph Selby is 101 00:04:22,039 --> 00:04:20,220 gonna join me he's author of physics of 102 00:04:25,550 --> 00:04:22,049 God and I thought it'd be cool to have 103 00:04:27,550 --> 00:04:25,560 him join me on the email questions here 104 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:27,560 how are you doing there Joseph 105 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:30,750 doing great Heidi looking forward to 106 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:33,840 some some interesting questions oh boy 107 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:36,360 this is um I don't read these ahead of 108 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:38,280 time just so you know just so you know 109 00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:40,110 and so they could range from anything 110 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:42,900 from angels to aliens and yeah this is 111 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:46,950 we'll see okay this one says dear Heidi 112 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:49,440 I have a question about five years ago I 113 00:04:54,410 --> 00:04:52,560 was seeing a man that just kind of hung 114 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:54,420 around on the street in front of our 115 00:05:00,890 --> 00:04:58,050 house I asked my girls then 22 and 11 if 116 00:05:03,890 --> 00:05:00,900 they had seen anything anyone they both 117 00:05:06,260 --> 00:05:03,900 saw the same man the younger saw him 118 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:06,270 about a block away while on her bike the 119 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:08,280 older knew he was always out front just 120 00:05:13,490 --> 00:05:11,190 observing when he showed up at my job 121 00:05:15,650 --> 00:05:13,500 one time only a few feet from me gosh it 122 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:15,660 sounds like a stalker watching what I 123 00:05:20,210 --> 00:05:18,150 was doing I directly told him he was not 124 00:05:22,910 --> 00:05:20,220 welcome nor wanted and to stay away from 125 00:05:25,070 --> 00:05:22,920 me my house and my family you talked 126 00:05:27,380 --> 00:05:25,080 about hat man this guy never wore any 127 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:27,390 hat he was always in a suit very broad 128 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:29,730 in the chest and shoulders hair combed 129 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:31,830 back on his head wore sunglasses always 130 00:05:36,980 --> 00:05:34,110 kind of smug like he was trying to be 131 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:36,990 approachable but it was fake the weird 132 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:39,630 thing was all his coloring clothes hair 133 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:41,730 even glasses were like a soft gray 134 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:45,600 silver no real identifiable facial 135 00:05:50,630 --> 00:05:48,570 features me my whole family bound the 136 00:05:53,390 --> 00:05:50,640 house down to the four corners of the 137 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:53,400 property and I haven't seen him nor have 138 00:06:01,160 --> 00:05:56,580 the girls so what the has L was that she 139 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,170 said the bad word though whoa okay 140 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:03,600 I'll take this first and then I'll see 141 00:06:10,130 --> 00:06:06,120 what you think about with Joseph Mannino 142 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:10,140 I have heard of these more gray like I 143 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:13,260 don't know spooky like guys hanging 144 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:16,080 around and when you say silver and gray 145 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:19,080 yes it makes me think aliens sometimes 146 00:06:24,170 --> 00:06:21,060 but then you blessed your property and 147 00:06:28,370 --> 00:06:24,180 it stayed away so you know I'm of the 148 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:28,380 notion that evil is evil and if you if 149 00:06:34,910 --> 00:06:32,010 it takes having to pray over something 150 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:34,920 to protect it to put the good positive 151 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:37,110 vibes out there then you know what's it 152 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:39,060 matter what exactly what it was you got 153 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:41,050 rid of it and that's a 154 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:43,449 things so I don't think there's some 155 00:06:47,659 --> 00:06:45,250 things just exist without being able to 156 00:06:50,129 --> 00:06:47,669 define it always science or not and 157 00:06:52,170 --> 00:06:50,139 speaking of which we talked about some 158 00:06:54,689 --> 00:06:52,180 of that later but it's like I don't 159 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:54,699 think that we always have to pinpoint 160 00:06:59,339 --> 00:06:56,860 and define and say there it is that's 161 00:07:00,450 --> 00:06:59,349 what it is and then we feel better I 162 00:07:02,369 --> 00:07:00,460 don't think we always feel better I 163 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:02,379 think sometimes we could confuse things 164 00:07:07,649 --> 00:07:05,409 and cross odd lines that I don't know it 165 00:07:08,969 --> 00:07:07,659 just gets kind of gray literally so what 166 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:08,979 did you think of that one Joseph that 167 00:07:15,629 --> 00:07:10,870 was a little different that's a little 168 00:07:17,129 --> 00:07:15,639 different I would I agree with you 169 00:07:20,430 --> 00:07:17,139 though I don't think we can always know 170 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:20,440 I think there's a lot more mystery than 171 00:07:27,749 --> 00:07:24,970 we'll ever be able to solve but she did 172 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:27,759 the right thing she went to you know 173 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:30,810 prayer and inner protection and that's 174 00:07:37,529 --> 00:07:33,690 that's maybe the lesson right there for 175 00:07:41,070 --> 00:07:37,539 yeah honestly so hey I think any 176 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:41,080 positive vibes can oppose darkness oh 177 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:42,400 all right 178 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:45,370 next email I have here it says dear 179 00:07:49,589 --> 00:07:47,289 Heidi I'm in your shadow people group 180 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:49,599 and I have a question I have a 19 year 181 00:07:52,589 --> 00:07:51,280 old daughter who just told me she is 182 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:52,599 having sleep paralysis 183 00:07:57,209 --> 00:07:55,300 I really didn't say much to her as I 184 00:07:59,820 --> 00:07:57,219 didn't want to scare her or give her any 185 00:08:02,339 --> 00:07:59,830 ideas as to what it could be but it does 186 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:02,349 worry me her room happens to be where my 187 00:08:08,459 --> 00:08:05,409 husband and I saw the hat man like 20 188 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:08,469 years ago oh great we haven't had any 189 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:10,750 problems and life seems to be going well 190 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:13,120 but wondering what I can do to help her 191 00:08:18,659 --> 00:08:15,550 without saying too much as a teenage 192 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:18,669 girl she can at times overact if you 193 00:08:24,029 --> 00:08:21,039 know what I mean she's also adopted and 194 00:08:25,890 --> 00:08:24,039 is not settled in herself yet as far as 195 00:08:27,719 --> 00:08:25,900 I know she is doing well working and 196 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:27,729 going to college things are going better 197 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:29,529 for her now than they were in high 198 00:08:33,389 --> 00:08:31,300 school so it's kind of surprised what 199 00:08:35,819 --> 00:08:33,399 she mentioned she was having trouble she 200 00:08:37,170 --> 00:08:35,829 didn't see him to be scared but said she 201 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:37,180 gets paralyzed and it feels like 202 00:08:43,170 --> 00:08:39,520 something is in the room but she didn't 203 00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:43,180 see what or who it was I'll explain 204 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:44,680 something real quick Joseph I don't know 205 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:46,060 if you're familiar with this hatman 206 00:08:49,439 --> 00:08:47,440 character but there's a man in a 207 00:08:51,210 --> 00:08:49,449 three-piece suit trench coat sometimes 208 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:51,220 sometimes a cape 209 00:08:58,130 --> 00:08:54,160 anywhere's a gaucho hat or a big 210 00:09:02,070 --> 00:08:58,140 pass and I coined the term hat man and 211 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:02,080 people see him in broad daylight walking 212 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:03,730 down the street in their house and their 213 00:09:09,510 --> 00:09:07,180 bedrooms and if they see his eyes they 214 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:09,520 are usually glowing red and they feel 215 00:09:13,950 --> 00:09:11,290 like they have looked at the devil 216 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:13,960 himself and so when this lady says 20 217 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:15,610 years earlier she saw the hat man in 218 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:18,550 this bedroom I'm like holy smokes you 219 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:21,610 know and he causes paralysis sometimes 220 00:09:28,260 --> 00:09:24,730 on his victims but not always so in 221 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:28,270 reading this I'm like ooh you know tell 222 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:30,310 the girl to bless her room you know and 223 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:32,560 without you know just saying gee honey I 224 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:34,450 would like to really when it cleanse the 225 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:35,980 house that's what I would tell her and 226 00:09:39,210 --> 00:09:37,420 you know oh here's a here's a cross 227 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:39,220 necklace and we're all gonna join in and 228 00:09:42,390 --> 00:09:40,840 what bless the entire house and we'll 229 00:09:45,090 --> 00:09:42,400 just wear these necklaces you know just 230 00:09:46,740 --> 00:09:45,100 to keep it where it's on you know the 231 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:46,750 down low so she doesn't freak out I 232 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:47,710 don't know what would she tell her 233 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:50,050 Joseph well I would probably telling you 234 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:53,050 the same thing I might also add that she 235 00:10:00,150 --> 00:09:56,410 might want to talk to her daughter and 236 00:10:04,620 --> 00:10:00,160 see if there are other fear issues 237 00:10:07,170 --> 00:10:04,630 happening where she's you know got some 238 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:07,180 some deep-seated things that may or may 239 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:10,930 not be unrelated to the hatman idea or 240 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:14,830 just that she's attracting that man with 241 00:10:21,090 --> 00:10:18,250 her fears but at any in any event 242 00:10:23,850 --> 00:10:21,100 whether it's a hat man or it's some 243 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:23,860 deep-seated fear about failure or life 244 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:27,430 or as she said she hasn't settled yet 245 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:32,520 into the reality of being adopted that 246 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:35,260 you know address that there's many ways 247 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:37,650 to address it not all with a 248 00:10:46,530 --> 00:10:44,140 psychologist but just finding out how 249 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:46,540 she feels getting her to talk is the 250 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:49,150 main thing and teenagers are notoriously 251 00:10:56,660 --> 00:10:52,990 difficult to get to talk but to get her 252 00:11:01,860 --> 00:10:56,670 to start sharing what's happening inside 253 00:11:04,050 --> 00:11:01,870 so you're a natural all right very cool 254 00:11:06,910 --> 00:11:04,060 that's really good advice all right so 255 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:06,920 this next one it says hello Heidi I am 256 00:11:12,670 --> 00:11:10,310 Oh Marit Marit G from South Africa 257 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:12,680 my teenage daughter took a deep 258 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:15,110 emotional dip and phoned me last night 259 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:17,750 and broke down she said that there is 260 00:11:23,889 --> 00:11:20,240 this voice telling her to harm herself 261 00:11:25,930 --> 00:11:23,899 and confirming all her fears like I will 262 00:11:29,050 --> 00:11:25,940 take you to a place where nobody will 263 00:11:31,689 --> 00:11:29,060 find you your mother will die etc she 264 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:31,699 then said that she could see the voice 265 00:11:37,329 --> 00:11:34,730 it was a dark man with a hat and a coat 266 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:37,339 dang it's a same creature with his hands 267 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:39,440 in his pocket she was terribly afraid of 268 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:42,079 him and he instilled terror it was 269 00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:45,170 always in a specific corner of her room 270 00:11:49,449 --> 00:11:47,990 but also sometimes looking over her 271 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:49,459 standing at her bedside 272 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:51,889 one time when I sat with her she started 273 00:11:58,449 --> 00:11:54,410 screaming as he was standing behind me 274 00:12:00,699 --> 00:11:58,459 pointing a knife at me it seems as if he 275 00:12:03,699 --> 00:12:00,709 appears more frequently when she is 276 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:03,709 anxious could this be the Hat man I have 277 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:05,600 not heard of encounters where he 278 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:08,630 actually spoke I'll let you take this 279 00:12:19,389 --> 00:12:16,010 one first Joseph well again I would say 280 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:19,399 maybe the Hat man is a symptom not a 281 00:12:26,590 --> 00:12:23,120 cause that maybe there are issues that 282 00:12:28,329 --> 00:12:26,600 need to be opened up and talked and 283 00:12:30,910 --> 00:12:28,339 sounds like she already started talking 284 00:12:34,389 --> 00:12:30,920 I didn't catch if he said how old she 285 00:12:36,430 --> 00:12:34,399 was she just said a teenage daughter it 286 00:12:39,370 --> 00:12:36,440 seems to a lot of teenage daughters 287 00:12:41,170 --> 00:12:39,380 stuff today well it's a it's an 288 00:12:45,189 --> 00:12:41,180 emotional time I mean it's also an 289 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:45,199 emotional time for teenage boys but for 290 00:12:49,170 --> 00:12:46,730 teenage girls it can be even more 291 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:49,180 difficult again there could be issues 292 00:12:56,019 --> 00:12:52,670 outside of this you know in her school 293 00:13:00,420 --> 00:12:56,029 with her peer group in her in her family 294 00:13:04,569 --> 00:13:00,430 setting so I don't discount that she's 295 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:04,579 perhaps seeing a you know some kind of 296 00:13:13,170 --> 00:13:09,250 disembodied entity but the underlying 297 00:13:16,689 --> 00:13:13,180 cause could be that she's attracting it 298 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:16,699 well you know what I have to say it's so 299 00:13:20,770 --> 00:13:19,010 bizarre but all over the globe I have 300 00:13:24,250 --> 00:13:20,780 received emails in regard 301 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:24,260 to the hat man and doing these these 302 00:13:29,650 --> 00:13:27,560 types of things where he he'll insinuate 303 00:13:32,890 --> 00:13:29,660 kill yourself kill somebody or I'm gonna 304 00:13:35,050 --> 00:13:32,900 do it and it's like all over the globe 305 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:35,060 and these people are not connected and 306 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:37,100 it's like well I know the argument of 307 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:39,080 you know this this could be you know 308 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:40,880 incited from this and that and I'm like 309 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:43,910 but how is it the same man they're 310 00:13:47,830 --> 00:13:46,070 describing in the same clothing it's 311 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:47,840 like oh my goodness 312 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:51,680 I I don't know how to explain that away 313 00:13:57,850 --> 00:13:55,970 to people except that you know I I never 314 00:14:01,000 --> 00:13:57,860 I'm try to say I'm Christian and it's 315 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:01,010 like okay god it's supposedly considered 316 00:14:05,290 --> 00:14:02,360 to be everywhere at once 317 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:05,300 why can't darkness and why can't it take 318 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:07,910 a form people say they witnessed Jesus 319 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:09,740 witness Marian 320 00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:12,170 it's a recognizable form so you know 321 00:14:17,020 --> 00:14:14,990 it's the same entity well this guy 322 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:17,030 doesn't change it up a whole lot where 323 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:18,770 he wants people to know what still him 324 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:22,730 too so it makes you wonder you know why 325 00:14:28,990 --> 00:14:25,130 why is he you know he wants to be 326 00:14:30,970 --> 00:14:29,000 recognized and yeah I think honestly 327 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:30,980 from all the I mean thousands of emails 328 00:14:34,210 --> 00:14:33,410 about this guy that it is indeed the Hat 329 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:34,220 man 330 00:14:39,490 --> 00:14:36,590 yeah and he speaks he speaks he 331 00:14:42,670 --> 00:14:39,500 threatens um he likes to talk to people 332 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:42,680 in their dreams too which is bizarre but 333 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:46,010 he he likes to growl and threaten and 334 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:48,560 yeah but the list goes on its a freaky 335 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:50,690 freaky thing here we're gonna be talking 336 00:14:56,770 --> 00:14:52,010 about God soon and here we're talking 337 00:14:58,750 --> 00:14:56,780 about the opposite of God it's you know 338 00:15:01,900 --> 00:14:58,760 I always think you know for a lot of 339 00:15:03,190 --> 00:15:01,910 people that have no faith out there that 340 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:03,200 when you're looking into the eyes of 341 00:15:09,940 --> 00:15:05,870 just the opposite of God it should be a 342 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:09,950 lot easier to believe in God you know I 343 00:15:14,260 --> 00:15:12,830 don't know that's that's I mean that 344 00:15:16,630 --> 00:15:14,270 would I would at least hope that there 345 00:15:17,470 --> 00:15:16,640 was an opposite force you know something 346 00:15:19,690 --> 00:15:17,480 weird Wow 347 00:15:21,550 --> 00:15:19,700 well marriage sheet from South Africa 348 00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:21,560 thanks for that email that was a it was 349 00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:26,030 a doozy all right so this next one this 350 00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:28,430 one comes from Jeremy hello I started 351 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:31,100 doing some research into shadow people 352 00:15:34,450 --> 00:15:33,710 and read a few things from your book I 353 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:34,460 believe 354 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:36,350 I've had more than a few encounters with 355 00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:39,110 a hat man as you call it I'm really just 356 00:15:43,510 --> 00:15:40,700 seeking information on the specific 357 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:43,520 being I know it sounds crazy but I've 358 00:15:48,190 --> 00:15:45,920 had objects thrown across my room and 359 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:48,200 even been charged by this hat man figure 360 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:50,450 I wake up in the middle of the night at 361 00:15:54,970 --> 00:15:52,850 2:00 or 3:00 and feel a very strong 362 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:54,980 presence but don't see anything when I 363 00:15:59,769 --> 00:15:56,930 wake up I haven't seen this hat man in 364 00:16:00,579 --> 00:15:59,779 years but I try my hardest to tune it 365 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:00,589 out and ignore it 366 00:16:03,730 --> 00:16:02,570 although the presents at night is still 367 00:16:06,250 --> 00:16:03,740 there if you could give me any 368 00:16:08,139 --> 00:16:06,260 information at all about this being or 369 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:08,149 any information on how to deal with it I 370 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:09,490 would be so grateful 371 00:16:14,430 --> 00:16:11,450 Joseph what do you say to people that 372 00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:14,440 are being barrage by something 373 00:16:17,949 --> 00:16:16,550 SuperDuper negative I mean you have to 374 00:16:20,530 --> 00:16:17,959 get questions like that you cover the 375 00:16:23,889 --> 00:16:20,540 topic of God so what would you say to 376 00:16:27,490 --> 00:16:23,899 somebody like this well wrap yourself in 377 00:16:30,850 --> 00:16:27,500 in inner light there's an exercise you 378 00:16:33,490 --> 00:16:30,860 can do it's very simple where you stand 379 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:33,500 you put your arms straight out at your 380 00:16:40,590 --> 00:16:36,800 sides and you bring your arms together 381 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:40,600 and touch your palms and as you do so 382 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:45,529 you can you can say anything you want 383 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:49,010 really it can be Jesus protect me God 384 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:50,110 protect me 385 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:53,980 there's home taught sot which is a 386 00:17:00,460 --> 00:16:58,250 Sanskrit mantra and then open your hands 387 00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:00,470 up move your arms around and bring them 388 00:17:03,850 --> 00:17:03,260 and touch them behind you and say the 389 00:17:06,970 --> 00:17:03,860 same thing 390 00:17:10,449 --> 00:17:06,980 god protect me or jesus protect me and 391 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:10,459 as you're doing it feel as if you are 392 00:17:22,030 --> 00:17:16,510 building a cocoon of light around you 393 00:17:25,660 --> 00:17:22,040 and and seek that inner protection no 394 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:25,670 that's that's beautiful you know a lot 395 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:28,400 of people it's just I don't know what it 396 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:30,530 is but it's like I am absolutely 397 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:33,170 inundated and it's getting worse out 398 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:36,950 there regards to people experiencing 399 00:17:41,169 --> 00:17:39,250 negative things and there's also a 400 00:17:43,570 --> 00:17:41,179 unprecedent and number of people that 401 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:43,580 are leaving the church leaving their 402 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:45,950 faith behind and it's like does this go 403 00:17:50,049 --> 00:17:48,230 hand in hand you know but sometimes 404 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:50,059 seems like darkness is attracted to the 405 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:52,010 light somebody's really a bright light 406 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:55,400 that these things come to them like a 407 00:17:59,970 --> 00:17:55,910 bug 408 00:18:02,950 --> 00:17:59,980 so it's like how do you tell people 409 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:02,960 you're experiencing this because of a B 410 00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:03,410 or C 411 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:05,240 I tell people the only way they know is 412 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:08,570 if they know themselves if they like to 413 00:18:12,580 --> 00:18:10,460 pet a dog or kick it I always say it's 414 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:12,590 like you know and you know why this 415 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:15,230 presence is coming your way it's not so 416 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:16,910 much a matter of trying to figure it out 417 00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:20,150 once again it's important that you find 418 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:21,590 a way to get rid of it more than 419 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:24,320 anything so Jeremy I don't know which 420 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:25,730 one of my books that you're reading I 421 00:18:32,380 --> 00:18:28,750 have a couple of them on the topic so if 422 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:32,390 either of them tells you in pretty good 423 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:36,110 detail on why these beings come and how 424 00:18:40,510 --> 00:18:38,450 to get rid of them so I hope that the 425 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:40,520 information in there is ok because it's 426 00:18:49,419 --> 00:18:43,520 hard to cram a whole lot into a show 427 00:18:52,450 --> 00:18:49,429 versus a book so it's yeah but I 428 00:18:56,110 --> 00:18:52,460 appreciate your writing email here ok so 429 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:56,120 I am scrolling through the emails 430 00:19:00,220 --> 00:18:58,370 everything is happen and out of people 431 00:19:02,140 --> 00:19:00,230 today it looks like time just go and do 432 00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:02,150 it see what we could find all right and 433 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:03,919 this is a big one I don't know what's in 434 00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:06,290 it but it kind of will see all right 435 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:13,120 dear Heidi we don't know each other but 436 00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:15,440 I just stumbled on your site from Google 437 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:17,270 I can't seem to find your email address 438 00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:18,890 on your site so I thought I'd send you a 439 00:19:22,810 --> 00:19:21,169 message here ok I recently had a crazy 440 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:22,820 thing happened to me over the weekend 441 00:19:29,380 --> 00:19:26,720 with who I now feel is oh boy hat man 442 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:29,390 creature again I thought it was I was 443 00:19:33,310 --> 00:19:30,950 going crazy and woke my husband up 444 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:33,320 because I thought I was dying or needed 445 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:34,370 to go to the hospital 446 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:37,190 she says this is what happened I woke up 447 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:39,740 and it was still dark probably around 6 448 00:19:45,730 --> 00:19:42,080 a.m. I couldn't read my cell phone at 449 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:45,740 all all the numbers look like 11:11 my 450 00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:48,710 arms and legs felt tingly like they had 451 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:51,080 been numb I couldn't see anything for a 452 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:53,090 while and then I started seeing diamonds 453 00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:54,910 on the wall and pink and purple 454 00:19:58,149 --> 00:19:57,440 sparkling stars on the ceiling well this 455 00:20:01,690 --> 00:19:58,159 is different 456 00:20:03,659 --> 00:20:01,700 then I saw a huge guy hey look 457 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:03,669 like a giant with very broad shoulders 458 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:08,330 it was just an online outline of a man 459 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:10,820 completely blackened he had on a long 460 00:20:16,629 --> 00:20:13,970 coat and an old style hat like from the 461 00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:16,639 gangster days he didn't do anything and 462 00:20:20,889 --> 00:20:18,860 I didn't feel threatened at all when I 463 00:20:23,259 --> 00:20:20,899 told my husband what I was seeing he 464 00:20:26,409 --> 00:20:23,269 asked if I was high oh that's a 465 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:26,419 wonderful sentiment to ask your wife oh 466 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:28,850 my goodness I told him I didn't know 467 00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:31,760 because I sure felt high it felt like 468 00:20:36,220 --> 00:20:33,860 ecstasy although I've never done drugs 469 00:20:38,769 --> 00:20:36,230 it's the best way to describe it it was 470 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:38,779 bizarre I told my mom about this today 471 00:20:41,019 --> 00:20:40,340 and she thinks it's something in the 472 00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:41,029 house 473 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:43,220 I've thought the home was haunted since 474 00:20:47,889 --> 00:20:45,350 we got it but I think every house is 475 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:47,899 haunted that I live in I thought it was 476 00:20:52,509 --> 00:20:50,000 my medications playing tricks on me or 477 00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,519 maybe I forgot to take my medicine but 478 00:20:57,370 --> 00:20:54,559 my son just told me today that he sees 479 00:21:00,250 --> 00:20:57,380 someone in our bedroom he sleeps with us 480 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:00,260 in his 3 he sat there and just stared at 481 00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:03,289 this person who I couldn't see sorry 482 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:04,880 this is so long do you think this is 483 00:21:09,850 --> 00:21:06,710 something I should be worried about or 484 00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:09,860 any advice thanks for reading this Emily 485 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:18,789 well there are definitely ghosts that 486 00:21:26,649 --> 00:21:22,070 there's there's no question that beings 487 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:26,659 can linger in sort of the the astral 488 00:21:32,769 --> 00:21:29,360 level of reality the energy the the 489 00:21:34,419 --> 00:21:32,779 subtle energy level of reality I read 490 00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:34,429 years ago something interesting rather 491 00:21:45,789 --> 00:21:40,940 than being fearful or concerned to pray 492 00:21:48,610 --> 00:21:45,799 for that specific entity to move on 493 00:21:51,629 --> 00:21:48,620 because it's generally it's generally 494 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:51,639 that they're attached to something that 495 00:22:00,039 --> 00:21:55,510 they died in the house unfulfilled or 496 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:00,049 the house holds some kind of memory for 497 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:03,760 them and they just can't let go and to 498 00:22:09,220 --> 00:22:06,950 to really pray for them to move on 499 00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:09,230 because they're just they're wasting 500 00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:11,990 time they're wasting their souls journey 501 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:15,350 by lingering so long 502 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:19,790 and to to encourage them to take their 503 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:22,190 next step and to get beyond their fear 504 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:25,730 get beyond their attachment Wow now 505 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:27,590 that's good advice and when you're 506 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:29,690 dealing with the haunting that's uh yeah 507 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:32,330 because you know sometimes I I can't 508 00:22:36,550 --> 00:22:34,430 help but to wonder why some of them are 509 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:36,560 there you'll hear stories of the person 510 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:38,300 let there was such a good person 511 00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:40,010 I don't know why they're haunting the 512 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:41,990 location and scaring people because 513 00:22:46,690 --> 00:22:44,690 they're there so it's yeah sometimes I 514 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:46,700 don't know their purpose but yeah it 515 00:22:51,310 --> 00:22:48,230 sounds like a good idea to pray for them 516 00:22:53,530 --> 00:22:51,320 to continue to grow with their souls so 517 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:53,540 that's that's fascinating good advice I 518 00:22:59,530 --> 00:22:56,570 you know what I would say to this person 519 00:23:02,170 --> 00:22:59,540 that experienced this hatman it seems 520 00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:02,180 like this is an ongoing problem for this 521 00:23:08,410 --> 00:23:05,860 person and they may be somewhat gifted 522 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:08,420 everywhere I move to I'm like great this 523 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:10,250 place is haunted and I'm like hold on 524 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:12,890 maybe I'm the haunted maybe I'm the one 525 00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:15,020 that's just able to see this stuff and I 526 00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:16,880 don't think I'm a psychic or anything 527 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:18,950 special I think everybody's got these 528 00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:21,650 abilities to to see and some just say a 529 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:23,780 little bit better and some of us ignore 530 00:23:29,170 --> 00:23:26,750 better because it's there and I had a 531 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:29,180 ghost owner come on once that told me 532 00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:30,530 what's the purpose and getting rid of 533 00:23:33,310 --> 00:23:32,150 ghosts they're everywhere 534 00:23:34,810 --> 00:23:33,320 it's like what are you gonna just tell 535 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:34,820 them to move down the street or step 536 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:36,890 outside he's like you can't get rid of 537 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:38,360 them just tell them to keep it down I'm 538 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:40,610 like oh that's different 539 00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:44,960 but like okay but I don't know I just 540 00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:46,910 tend to feel that if I'm paying the rent 541 00:23:57,850 --> 00:23:54,490 I think most ghosts are I have no 542 00:24:00,790 --> 00:23:57,860 malevolent intent you know they're just 543 00:24:04,690 --> 00:24:00,800 they're just confused if they're a 544 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:04,700 person right yeah yeah yeah surely I get 545 00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:05,360 what you mean 546 00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:09,320 it's yeah you know when it's reading 547 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:11,900 this email a one-element of this that's 548 00:24:15,490 --> 00:24:14,810 a little weird and funky is the diamonds 549 00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:15,500 on the wall 550 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:17,900 pink and purple sparkling stars on the 551 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,450 ceiling I'm like I have not I don't 552 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:22,400 recall ever seeing somebody write about 553 00:24:27,010 --> 00:24:24,410 that and then have this hat man show up 554 00:24:27,289 --> 00:24:27,020 but one thing to know this happening you 555 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,299 know 556 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:29,039 a lot of people like oh he was tall I'm 557 00:24:34,999 --> 00:24:32,070 like this man is monstrously tall he 558 00:24:38,659 --> 00:24:35,009 could be anywhere from six to ten and 559 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:38,669 twelve feet tall people and I often hear 560 00:24:44,299 --> 00:24:41,730 he's about seven feet tall or more so 561 00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:44,309 yeah that's it's kind of a crazy thing 562 00:24:48,409 --> 00:24:46,950 but if you're a person where ever you 563 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,419 move and you've got these weird things 564 00:24:54,019 --> 00:24:51,360 going on I make a habit before I get 565 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:54,029 settled when I'm living somewhere is to 566 00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:55,679 bless every freaking corner 567 00:24:59,419 --> 00:24:57,539 I don't even mess around with it I'm 568 00:25:00,649 --> 00:24:59,429 like I know something's gonna show up 569 00:25:02,659 --> 00:25:00,659 they're gonna be like oh there goes 570 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:02,669 Heidi she's moved over here come on guys 571 00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:05,730 so I put up my barriers right away and 572 00:25:11,779 --> 00:25:09,659 slag do not enter so I think it's 573 00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:11,789 important to do that and to help your 574 00:25:17,419 --> 00:25:13,950 your family and your your three-year-old 575 00:25:19,159 --> 00:25:17,429 out to definitely have them hope a 576 00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:19,169 family participate in blessing the home 577 00:25:25,609 --> 00:25:22,679 and you know take take charge of it and 578 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:25,619 I think it's just really important all 579 00:25:27,739 --> 00:25:26,129 righty 580 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:27,749 so we've got five minutes I've got a 581 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:31,049 short one here and of course it looks 582 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:34,320 like shadow people once again okay I 583 00:25:39,379 --> 00:25:36,450 have a question about a shadow person I 584 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:39,389 have one that lives in my house mostly 585 00:25:44,299 --> 00:25:41,369 in my room and in the hallway I could 586 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:44,309 see him and hear him and feel him one 587 00:25:49,609 --> 00:25:47,609 time I bumped into him Oh yikes like you 588 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:49,619 would if you turn a corner and someone 589 00:25:55,609 --> 00:25:51,960 was standing there but he doesn't look 590 00:25:58,849 --> 00:25:55,619 like black smoke he isn't a blob he has 591 00:26:02,239 --> 00:25:58,859 no face he is taller than me and he is 592 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:02,249 there but not like how I have read about 593 00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:07,950 is this a shadow person huh okay I'm a 594 00:26:14,419 --> 00:26:11,700 dive in Joseph um okay so the sane a 595 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:14,429 person you see a person but there's no 596 00:26:18,859 --> 00:26:16,950 face so you're obviously seeing 597 00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:18,869 something that's rather solid and 598 00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:20,460 dealing with something rather solid it 599 00:26:25,369 --> 00:26:22,350 could be a hat man he doesn't always 600 00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:25,379 wear a hat but he's very distinctive 601 00:26:29,989 --> 00:26:27,299 when he's very solid shadow people tend 602 00:26:31,970 --> 00:26:29,999 to not be as solid where you can bump 603 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:31,980 into him for crying out loud that's 604 00:26:37,399 --> 00:26:35,700 horrifying so and why it's he's 605 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,409 lingering near your bedroom in the 606 00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:40,320 hallway I he waits to your guard is down 607 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:41,080 when you're slow 608 00:26:46,350 --> 00:26:44,010 a lot of times and but it's not always 609 00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:46,360 people he sits in the backseat of 610 00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:48,940 people's cars and you know tip says hat 611 00:26:55,140 --> 00:26:50,980 like a cowboy or something it's really 612 00:26:59,010 --> 00:26:55,150 weird so I'm thinking it may be a shadow 613 00:27:01,680 --> 00:26:59,020 being but I don't know I don't know it's 614 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:01,690 hard to say could be a ghost even so 615 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:05,130 what do you think about that one Joseph 616 00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:07,990 well I think as you say could it could 617 00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:10,660 be it could be any of the above it could 618 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:13,960 be but she didn't say that she was 619 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:18,310 fearful or paralyzed right it could just 620 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:22,870 be as I say some some person who's died 621 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:25,900 and is now living in their astral form 622 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:30,910 and maybe they feel some attachment to 623 00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:36,810 her now we forget perhaps that these 624 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:40,540 disembodied entities are people they 625 00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:42,730 have personalities they have a past they 626 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:46,420 have memories they are people in all 627 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:48,090 respects they just don't have a body 628 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:52,360 right and so they may behave in a 629 00:28:01,020 --> 00:27:57,520 peculiar way but not not meaning 630 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:01,030 anything you know negative or malevolent 631 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:04,930 about it so if she's not feeling fear 632 00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:06,820 again I would recommend that she just 633 00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:12,640 pray that this entity move on and not be 634 00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:15,760 afraid herself yeah you know it's so 635 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:18,040 funny I always just to say give me the 636 00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:20,530 biggest baddest alien versus a ghost 637 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:23,590 because ghosts used to be people and 638 00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:26,410 they're quite nosy and when they're 639 00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:28,060 popping in the shower while you're 640 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:29,590 taking a shower you feel a little bit 641 00:28:36,390 --> 00:28:34,090 violated that used to be a person there 642 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:36,400 so I don't know what it is I grew up in 643 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:39,630 a haunted house so I just had I had this 644 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:42,010 specific disdain for them in their 645 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:44,230 presence but you're right it's like if 646 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,990 it is a a wandering person which I 647 00:28:51,270 --> 00:28:48,640 believe there are some ghosts like that 648 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:51,280 that are just wandering and aimless and 649 00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:55,010 you know or just terrified I 650 00:28:59,560 --> 00:28:57,140 I've heard of people that they're ghosts 651 00:29:01,930 --> 00:28:59,570 that are afraid they won't make it to 652 00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:01,940 heaven so they won't go into the 653 00:29:07,930 --> 00:29:05,870 so-called light and I'm like wow that's 654 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:07,940 some serious apprehension if you're 655 00:29:11,050 --> 00:29:09,290 stubborn in this lifetime you're 656 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:11,060 stubborn in the next ha Joseph you think 657 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:13,430 well if you for some reason really 658 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:17,110 really believed in hell I might hesitate 659 00:29:26,260 --> 00:29:22,880 myself yeah but that that makes sense 660 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:26,270 it's like oh no I'm not going there it's 661 00:29:29,470 --> 00:29:28,130 happening Wow 662 00:29:31,870 --> 00:29:29,480 I guess if you could run from the light 663 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:31,880 and you know you were rotten or I don't 664 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:33,650 know it's like sometimes people just 665 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:35,750 think they have to be perfect and I 666 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:38,480 don't I will never understand that God 667 00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:39,890 knew what he was doing when he made us 668 00:29:46,390 --> 00:29:44,030 so well I am getting to our first break 669 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:46,400 here and Joseph you you hang in there 670 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:47,810 you hung in there pretty darn good 671 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:49,970 talking about all this spooky stuff so 672 00:29:54,010 --> 00:29:52,070 you guys are in for a treat after the 673 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:54,020 break we have Joseph's LD we're gonna be 674 00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:55,790 talking about his book physics of God 675 00:30:01,650 --> 00:29:57,680 you're listening to me Heidi how's the 676 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:04,120 welcome back everybody you're listening 677 00:30:07,270 --> 00:30:05,090 to me Heidi Hollis 678 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:07,280 the Outlander remembering always if it's 679 00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:08,810 weird we're here and we're giving you 680 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:11,240 advice and insight on outlandish topics 681 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:13,010 and the phone lines are always open but 682 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:15,050 I know most of you guys are listening to 683 00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:17,990 us later on so one eight eight eight 684 00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:21,320 nine one nine 23 55 and now I get to 685 00:30:26,770 --> 00:30:24,620 officially introduce my fantastic guess 686 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:26,780 who hung in there for a really 687 00:30:31,810 --> 00:30:28,810 fascinating outlandish corner 688 00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:31,820 Joseph Selby makes the complex and 689 00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:34,520 obscure simple and clear a dedicated 690 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:37,520 meditator for over 40 years he has 691 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:39,530 taught yoga and meditation throughout 692 00:30:44,770 --> 00:30:42,500 the US and Europe he's also been an avid 693 00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:44,780 follower of the unfolding a new paradigm 694 00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:47,600 of science and he is known for creating 695 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:50,270 bridges of understanding between the 696 00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:52,610 modern evidence-based discoveries of 697 00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:54,590 science and the ancient experience-based 698 00:31:00,400 --> 00:30:57,710 discoveries of the Mystics everybody 699 00:31:04,690 --> 00:31:00,410 give a round of applause to Joseph 700 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:04,700 Shelby we're going crazy here Joseph how 701 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:07,250 the heck are you I'm doing great thank 702 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:07,650 you 703 00:31:15,410 --> 00:31:13,170 I was like hmm does it some God and his 704 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,420 background is interesting I'm gonna 705 00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:18,480 slather on the paranormal he milked him 706 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:20,540 I thought that would be cool and you 707 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:26,010 you're pretty darn good so hey it's all 708 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,940 true yeah yeah honestly so a my goodness 709 00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:31,200 I don't even know where to begin with 710 00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:32,400 you because you have such a rich 711 00:31:38,420 --> 00:31:35,700 background how did you even get 712 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:38,430 interested in looking into oh the 713 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:41,330 complex and obscure about that 714 00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:47,580 well my journey started in late 60s with 715 00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:53,910 some basically hallucinogenic 716 00:32:03,820 --> 00:31:59,460 experiences that really made me have to 717 00:32:06,590 --> 00:32:03,830 rethink all my assumptions about reality 718 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:06,600 the kind of things that I experienced 719 00:32:15,980 --> 00:32:11,270 were wonderful I had blissful 720 00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:15,990 experiences not in in every instance but 721 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:18,600 I had enough of them that I came to 722 00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:21,170 really appreciate that there's another 723 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:26,760 level of subtle reality that our our 724 00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:28,650 science certainly our science at that 725 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:33,390 time didn't really explain so that sent 726 00:32:41,270 --> 00:32:37,110 me on a journey and that journey took me 727 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:41,280 to meditation primarily and to another 728 00:32:50,299 --> 00:32:46,080 another kind of inward Trek inward 729 00:32:53,030 --> 00:32:50,309 journey of self-discovery and meanwhile 730 00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:53,040 I never lost my interest in science I 731 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:55,500 always had kind of a a scientific mind 732 00:33:03,380 --> 00:32:59,760 scientific bent and gradually I came to 733 00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:03,390 appreciate in the last Oh 20-30 years 734 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:07,980 especially that science was evolving a 735 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:13,320 new paradigm to explain what generally 736 00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:16,610 would be referred to as spiritual topics 737 00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:19,460 spiritual 738 00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:23,670 subjects paranormal subjects and that 739 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:26,630 the the new scientific discoveries were 740 00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:31,140 giving space in the scientific paradigm 741 00:33:37,210 --> 00:33:35,220 for those things so I became personally 742 00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:37,220 fascinated with that along with my own 743 00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:41,160 personal spiritual journey Cole you know 744 00:33:49,010 --> 00:33:44,580 I remember reading somewhere that when 745 00:33:51,650 --> 00:33:49,020 it came to like scholars of religion and 746 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:51,660 beliefs and faith that that they all got 747 00:33:56,810 --> 00:33:54,330 replaced with scientists and we sent 748 00:33:59,180 --> 00:33:56,820 them ahead to go explain the world to us 749 00:34:01,880 --> 00:33:59,190 instead and that's where people lost 750 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:01,890 their faith because they turned to the 751 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:04,410 scientists as does that kind of explain 752 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:08,250 a little bit of the lack of beliefs out 753 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:11,250 there with a lot of people well I think 754 00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:14,190 so I think science has had a huge 755 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:17,580 influence because of its approach which 756 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:20,730 is the evidence-based approach to saying 757 00:34:27,340 --> 00:34:23,370 what is and what isn't true and it was 758 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:27,350 very difficult for sort of traditional 759 00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:30,480 spiritual denominations the Christianity 760 00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:34,470 and all the rest to compete with that 761 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:37,950 because it's sort of fundamental 762 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:40,740 position was that many things had to be 763 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:43,800 taken on faith what I liked in my 764 00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:45,690 journey and the reason why I ended up 765 00:34:53,050 --> 00:34:49,440 with such a strong interest in 766 00:34:56,659 --> 00:34:53,060 experience in meditation is that 767 00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:56,669 meditation is evidence-based when I have 768 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:01,200 a inner experience there's no question 769 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:04,110 in my mind there might still be a 770 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:07,100 question in in other people's minds but 771 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:11,160 there's no question in my mind that I've 772 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:14,540 had that experience and that there is a 773 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:19,770 responsive loving blissful infinite 774 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:23,610 consciousness that you can call God you 775 00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:25,410 can call it infinite consciousness you 776 00:35:31,770 --> 00:35:28,060 can call it a ground of being 777 00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:31,780 regardless of what you you know name it 778 00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:35,840 your experience is undeniable to 779 00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:39,020 yourself it that's that is such a 780 00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,180 powerful statement because you know in 781 00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:44,000 Douglas of things that I do and on this 782 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:47,120 show and the other two that I do a lot 783 00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:48,770 of people say to me well how do you know 784 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:50,360 for sure what it was that you 785 00:35:53,950 --> 00:35:51,860 experienced I'm like you know there 786 00:35:57,220 --> 00:35:53,960 comes a point where I can no longer 787 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:57,230 doubt my own sanity my own eyeballs and 788 00:36:01,570 --> 00:35:59,330 with all the thousands of emails I've 789 00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:01,580 ever received it's it's like people 790 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:04,160 often say I thought my eyes were playing 791 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:06,740 tricks on me I'm like are those the same 792 00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:08,570 eyes you use to drive back and forth to 793 00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:10,820 work and that's you you used to you know 794 00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:12,230 look up phone numbers on your cell phone 795 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:14,390 why would they suddenly just start 796 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:17,450 messing with you it's this self-doubt 797 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:19,850 that I think is a big enemy of people 798 00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:23,450 and stops their growth I don't know how 799 00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:25,580 you feel about that but this questioning 800 00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:28,670 nature of mankind could drive me nuts 801 00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:31,220 sometimes and hearing about it like come 802 00:36:38,380 --> 00:36:34,700 on people take a leap of believing in 803 00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:38,390 your own eyes what's your pointing out 804 00:36:46,450 --> 00:36:43,460 it is really central to why I wrote the 805 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:46,460 book is because so many people find it 806 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:51,350 difficult to believe that there can be a 807 00:36:58,380 --> 00:36:54,530 god that there can be any subtle reality 808 00:37:01,480 --> 00:36:58,390 because they think that science has 809 00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:01,490 eliminated that possibility and they 810 00:37:05,710 --> 00:37:03,220 don't want to they don't want to feel 811 00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:05,720 foolish or they don't want to feel like 812 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:10,430 they're ignoring better advice and they 813 00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:15,970 get very nervous about even discussing 814 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:20,480 subtle topics so hi them the main reason 815 00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:22,010 I wanted to write the book was to reach 816 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:24,380 people with the understanding that 817 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:27,530 there's tons of scientific discovery 818 00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:31,040 that's support subtle reality that 819 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:33,470 support the paranormal that support the 820 00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:37,130 presence of God but we don't hear about 821 00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:40,380 them as much because the 822 00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:45,660 kind of core establishment of science is 823 00:37:51,740 --> 00:37:48,839 materialistic tent is such a crying 824 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:51,750 shame there are so many worse things to 825 00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:53,970 feel foolish about like running on ice 826 00:38:00,920 --> 00:37:55,980 and then busting yourself in front of a 827 00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:00,930 crowd you know that's foolish it's about 828 00:38:07,549 --> 00:38:03,990 saying oh my goodness I think I saw 829 00:38:10,759 --> 00:38:07,559 something and this is what happened so 830 00:38:13,819 --> 00:38:10,769 many people go into these dark caves 831 00:38:17,059 --> 00:38:13,829 that they feel that no one can relate to 832 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:17,069 and they isolate themselves and whether 833 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:19,380 if it was a positive or negative 834 00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:20,970 experience of something out of the 835 00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:23,940 ordinary and people get so depressed 836 00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:27,599 they get suicidal and it's it's sad I 837 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:30,750 witness it a lot I I don't know it's 838 00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:33,690 it's probably the biggest problem I see 839 00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:37,400 out there so I get why you wrote it a 840 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:41,460 lot of people have said to me that after 841 00:38:45,499 --> 00:38:42,450 they've read it that they're gonna 842 00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:45,509 they're gonna send it to you know half a 843 00:38:50,509 --> 00:38:48,569 dozen people that they know who they've 844 00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:50,519 had that kind of conversation with where 845 00:38:57,380 --> 00:38:53,220 they they just can't bring themselves to 846 00:38:59,900 --> 00:38:57,390 embrace a spiritual life or a spiritual 847 00:39:04,220 --> 00:38:59,910 reality because of this barrier of 848 00:39:06,859 --> 00:39:04,230 science and that that barrier is 849 00:39:11,029 --> 00:39:06,869 changing not just because of my book but 850 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:11,039 really my book represents a kind of a 851 00:39:19,069 --> 00:39:14,730 concise expression of the new paradigm 852 00:39:20,359 --> 00:39:19,079 that is is emerging definitely and you 853 00:39:22,579 --> 00:39:20,369 know I'm starting to see this 854 00:39:25,819 --> 00:39:22,589 interesting disclosure from our own 855 00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:25,829 Pentagon our own government discussing 856 00:39:29,809 --> 00:39:28,230 the possibility that we are not alone 857 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:29,819 well that was exactly what they said on 858 00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:32,960 CNN we are not alone mr. Elizondo and 859 00:39:38,539 --> 00:39:36,569 now they're getting loud radio waves 860 00:39:40,579 --> 00:39:38,549 from space I just posted that on my 861 00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:40,589 facebook it's like there seems to be 862 00:39:44,329 --> 00:39:43,049 like they're testing the waters to see 863 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:44,339 where people are at and if they could 864 00:39:48,859 --> 00:39:47,130 handle this other reality coming forward 865 00:39:50,539 --> 00:39:48,869 and you know I don't know what they used 866 00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:50,549 to think that we'd all go running in the 867 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,740 streets panicked and I'm like I've asked 868 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,240 people on the street so did 869 00:39:58,930 --> 00:39:55,680 here in the big news well what's that 870 00:40:01,370 --> 00:39:58,940 we're not alone oh cool you know like 871 00:40:03,020 --> 00:40:01,380 people aren't getting it they're not 872 00:40:05,090 --> 00:40:03,030 panicked they're just likes about time 873 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:05,100 somebody said something I'm like this is 874 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:06,810 cool it's a cool time we're in don't you 875 00:40:12,430 --> 00:40:09,720 think yes I think we're good we're 876 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:12,440 really going through some fundamental 877 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:16,380 changes paradigm changes goodness 878 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:18,090 there's so much ground to cover and and 879 00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:20,250 you know all of us who have been you 880 00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:22,320 know a bit pooh-poohed over the years 881 00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,140 we're gonna be one so the go-to people 882 00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:28,560 like please tell me what's happening so 883 00:40:35,330 --> 00:40:30,840 it's it's all good though you know love 884 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:35,340 thy neighbor so your your your some of 885 00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:36,560 the things that you cover in your book 886 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:39,300 it's one of my favorite topics like 887 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:42,210 near-death experiences and the mystical 888 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:45,090 experience and you suggest that there 889 00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:47,730 are common roots of these two so how do 890 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:52,560 you connect the two well early on we 891 00:41:02,599 --> 00:40:56,640 were talking about disembodied entities 892 00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:02,609 ghosts and the fact that they're stuck 893 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:06,390 here they're not moving on to higher 894 00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:12,290 subtle realms the reason they are still 895 00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:15,660 with us the reason they're still alive 896 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:19,070 if you will is the same reason that 897 00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:21,840 there is life after death which is that 898 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:26,070 we have we have two bodies in a sense we 899 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:28,650 have a physical body and we have a 900 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,510 subtle energy body and when we die we we 901 00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:36,240 drop the physical body like a like an 902 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:41,550 overcoat and we inhabit only our subtle 903 00:41:48,859 --> 00:41:45,210 energy body so when people have 904 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:48,869 near-death experiences essentially they 905 00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:52,650 are by accident 906 00:41:59,900 --> 00:41:56,180 doing the same thing that a mystic does 907 00:42:04,609 --> 00:41:59,910 when they go deep into meditation and 908 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:04,619 they become perfectly still and they are 909 00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:09,270 able to transcend their awareness of 910 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:12,630 their physical body and kind of let go 911 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:16,530 of that sensory barrage of information 912 00:42:24,890 --> 00:42:20,160 and when you do that there's not nothing 913 00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:24,900 there's a whole other reality of this 914 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:28,590 subtle energy subtle feeling of a light 915 00:42:39,830 --> 00:42:34,650 of love of joy of bliss and when people 916 00:42:41,170 --> 00:42:39,840 have these near-death experiences in a 917 00:42:44,330 --> 00:42:41,180 sense they're doing the same thing 918 00:42:47,090 --> 00:42:44,340 involuntarily they're becoming perfectly 919 00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:47,100 still they're becoming perfectly still 920 00:42:53,359 --> 00:42:50,340 because they're on an operating table or 921 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:53,369 they've been knocked out by some kind of 922 00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:58,130 trauma and in some cases they also 923 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:01,200 transcend that physical awareness and 924 00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:03,930 when they do they have these heavenly 925 00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:06,150 experiences some of them go very far 926 00:43:12,859 --> 00:43:09,600 into the experience to the point where 927 00:43:15,849 --> 00:43:12,869 they are in astral regions they're in 928 00:43:20,540 --> 00:43:15,859 heavens where they describe these 929 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:20,550 luminous beautiful scenes that if you 930 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:23,730 look into mystic literature is exactly 931 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,690 the way they describe heaven so it's the 932 00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:29,760 same experience the same underlying 933 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:32,760 reality is that we don't die when the 934 00:43:40,460 --> 00:43:35,850 physical body dies we all have a subtle 935 00:43:44,420 --> 00:43:40,470 body and in fact our subtle body is what 936 00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:44,430 sustains and informs the physical body 937 00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:49,830 so you categorize I've had personally 938 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:53,609 and have met others who visit this 939 00:44:01,700 --> 00:43:58,170 heaven like place without trying just 940 00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:01,710 coming with these memories I don't know 941 00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:03,630 sometimes it's from sleep other times 942 00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:05,940 it's just there and then there are 943 00:44:10,310 --> 00:44:08,609 people who have these other experiences 944 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:10,320 and other memories of not being in a 945 00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:14,190 very good place and if they come with 946 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:15,369 these memories from 947 00:44:20,099 --> 00:44:18,160 and whatnot and so these are more 948 00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,109 categorized as a mystical experience but 949 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:22,720 are those usually sought to have happen 950 00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:25,089 though or do they just occur to people 951 00:44:30,569 --> 00:44:27,940 like that like without I mean I wasn't 952 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:30,579 seeking it I mean how does that happen 953 00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:33,249 you know it's it's weird well I think 954 00:44:41,309 --> 00:44:36,089 it's innate to us I think there's also 955 00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:41,319 an element of your your karma your your 956 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:45,180 current incarnation I'm a believer that 957 00:44:54,089 --> 00:44:49,650 we keep coming back and working out our 958 00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:54,099 consciousness until we attain that level 959 00:45:02,730 --> 00:44:58,240 of awareness continuously so in a past 960 00:45:05,789 --> 00:45:02,740 life someone may have evolved enough to 961 00:45:08,099 --> 00:45:05,799 have had their own mystic experiences so 962 00:45:12,089 --> 00:45:08,109 when they come into this life they're 963 00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:12,099 very likely to have them again and they 964 00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:13,660 might have them in dreams they might 965 00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:19,420 have them in a moment of stillness but 966 00:45:25,950 --> 00:45:23,220 it's again it's all the same reality 967 00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,960 just people are having that transcendent 968 00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:28,480 experience for different reasons and 969 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:31,630 through through different means yeah 970 00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:32,890 that's interesting 971 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:37,529 is there a culture versus others that 972 00:45:44,759 --> 00:45:40,450 encourage or have experienced mystical 973 00:45:48,329 --> 00:45:44,769 experiences well at the core of every 974 00:45:52,589 --> 00:45:48,339 major spiritual tradition in the world 975 00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,599 are mystics the Mystics are the founders 976 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:54,960 of the religions the religions become 977 00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,690 less and less mystical over time and 978 00:46:06,059 --> 00:46:01,359 more and more organizational and more 979 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:06,069 and more bound by dogma and the the 980 00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:09,249 insistence that people you know accept 981 00:46:13,259 --> 00:46:11,950 one religious tradition over another in 982 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:13,269 order to kind of perpetuate the 983 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:15,730 religious tradition but if you go back 984 00:46:25,470 --> 00:46:19,450 to the core if you go and and read 985 00:46:26,860 --> 00:46:25,480 carefully the lives and testimony of 986 00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:26,870 these mystics 987 00:46:30,970 --> 00:46:29,510 they all say the same thing doesn't 988 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:30,980 matter what religious tradition they're 989 00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:35,170 from they all experienced a 990 00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:38,150 consciousness that is much greater than 991 00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:41,180 their limited consciousness they have 992 00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:43,150 when they're in their physical bodies 993 00:46:52,450 --> 00:46:49,360 they all feel a knowable knowing 994 00:46:56,620 --> 00:46:52,460 conscious presence that surrounds them 995 00:47:02,320 --> 00:46:56,630 and penetrates them and that they're 996 00:47:07,210 --> 00:47:02,330 able with practice and with discipline 997 00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:07,220 to have that experience when you know 998 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,270 whatever they want and they can rise to 999 00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:14,480 those experiences of the heavens or even 1000 00:47:23,140 --> 00:47:18,680 more rarefied experiences where they 1001 00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:23,150 just feel themselves omnipresent in all 1002 00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:24,140 of creation 1003 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:27,920 I have always felt like the prisoner who 1004 00:47:32,590 --> 00:47:30,170 escaped allegory of the cave by Plato 1005 00:47:35,650 --> 00:47:32,600 and it sounds like you're describing 1006 00:47:37,420 --> 00:47:35,660 that the Mystics are kinda like that the 1007 00:47:39,010 --> 00:47:37,430 the ones that got out of the cave and 1008 00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:39,020 saw what was actually casting the 1009 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:41,510 shadows on the back of the cave and was 1010 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:43,850 trying to explain to the other prisoners 1011 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:46,970 no no that's not real over here is come 1012 00:47:51,820 --> 00:47:50,330 out the cave and have a peek yeah well 1013 00:47:56,050 --> 00:47:51,830 that's the that's what the Mystics have 1014 00:47:59,020 --> 00:47:56,060 been saying to us for millennia and you 1015 00:48:02,280 --> 00:47:59,030 know the good news is that eventually we 1016 00:48:06,190 --> 00:48:02,290 will learn it we will leave the cave 1017 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:06,200 it's it's our destiny it's much more far 1018 00:48:14,970 --> 00:48:10,640 more who we are than our physical bodies 1019 00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:14,980 and our emotional concerns at the moment 1020 00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:20,560 and our aspirations that only pertain to 1021 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:24,380 you know this life we're all divine 1022 00:48:31,870 --> 00:48:28,130 we're all yes we're all God's you know 1023 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:31,880 in our own right and I know myself a god 1024 00:48:40,450 --> 00:48:35,210 though what God think itís gods with a 1025 00:48:43,810 --> 00:48:40,460 small G alright goodness what it 1026 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:43,820 it's uh I think we do doubt the human 1027 00:48:48,310 --> 00:48:46,130 potential way too much and you know even 1028 00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,320 when people are faced with something 1029 00:48:54,609 --> 00:48:51,440 utterly evil and they're looking at it I 1030 00:48:56,349 --> 00:48:54,619 - I and they wonder why gee this thing 1031 00:48:59,079 --> 00:48:56,359 comes at me all the time but it never 1032 00:49:01,540 --> 00:48:59,089 kills me it never takes me out though 1033 00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:01,550 I'm fearful it will it just doesn't I'm 1034 00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:04,880 like that's because they can't unless 1035 00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:06,710 you allow it to some extent there's 1036 00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:07,910 there's something about the human 1037 00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:10,430 potential the power of the soul and the 1038 00:49:15,730 --> 00:49:13,190 spark of God in us that keeps these 1039 00:49:18,839 --> 00:49:15,740 negative things at bay until we succumb 1040 00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:18,849 to it somehow whether consciously or not 1041 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:21,710 how do you feel about that about there 1042 00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:24,650 being negative entities do you in the in 1043 00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:25,910 the world or do you not 1044 00:49:31,420 --> 00:49:28,640 some submit to that kind of thinking 1045 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:31,430 that there may be evil out there no I 1046 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:33,230 think there are negative entities I 1047 00:49:41,470 --> 00:49:37,690 think there is evil in the sense of 1048 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:41,480 beings people like ourselves who have 1049 00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:48,130 become so confused so twisted in their 1050 00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:51,640 perspective on what reality is and what 1051 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:56,270 their potential is that they live very 1052 00:50:04,870 --> 00:49:59,920 very dark lives I don't think they are 1053 00:50:09,370 --> 00:50:04,880 evil for all time I think that you or I 1054 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:09,380 or anyone could have experimented with 1055 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:13,040 that level of darkness and found our way 1056 00:50:20,109 --> 00:50:15,950 out of it so it's not permanent but it's 1057 00:50:24,750 --> 00:50:20,119 I think people get caught in fear that 1058 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:24,760 get caught in subtle power but mostly 1059 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:27,730 mostly the disembodied entities are are 1060 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:30,410 just confused they're not they're not 1061 00:50:38,349 --> 00:50:35,330 ready to move on it same yeah it's some 1062 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:38,359 of things that come across my computer 1063 00:50:43,870 --> 00:50:40,970 sometimes I'm like what the heck was 1064 00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:43,880 that you know I just you know I I love 1065 00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:45,950 that people are taking the step forward 1066 00:50:50,770 --> 00:50:48,470 to have their voice be heard and to say 1067 00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:50,780 I experienced this can someone help me 1068 00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:52,540 figure out what it was it's it's 1069 00:50:56,450 --> 00:50:53,730 fascinating 1070 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:56,460 and it really lets me know that if 1071 00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:58,130 anybody says they have all the answers 1072 00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:01,920 is run from them and there's a lot to 1073 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,950 learn out there that there are I mean 1074 00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:06,240 what do you what do you think about 1075 00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:09,390 there being interdimensional beings 1076 00:51:17,630 --> 00:51:15,240 coming our way sometimes definitely I 1077 00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:17,640 think if if you by that you mean that 1078 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:22,790 they're aliens not of this earth then 1079 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:26,490 the universe yeah or parallel universes 1080 00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:29,220 even all of that is still the same 1081 00:51:35,690 --> 00:51:32,670 principle that we have subtle bodies so 1082 00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:35,700 if an alien is coming who has never been 1083 00:51:44,140 --> 00:51:37,619 to the earth they're still using their 1084 00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:44,150 subtle body to become known to us to to 1085 00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:48,270 be interacting with us they have to work 1086 00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:51,840 through this agency of subtle energy 1087 00:51:57,609 --> 00:51:55,920 subtle reality in physics there's the 1088 00:52:03,820 --> 00:51:57,619 whole realm of what's called the bulk 1089 00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:03,830 and in quantum physics particularly in 1090 00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:07,500 string theory there is this idea that 1091 00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:12,180 our universe is really just a bubble in 1092 00:52:18,530 --> 00:52:15,780 a vast sea of energy and they even refer 1093 00:52:22,460 --> 00:52:18,540 to them as bubble universes and got it 1094 00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:22,470 and that it posits string theory posits 1095 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:27,630 that there could be millions of other 1096 00:52:34,550 --> 00:52:31,770 bubble universes in this subtle energy 1097 00:52:36,410 --> 00:52:34,560 what I call the energy verse and the 1098 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,420 energy verse is two-dimensional it's 1099 00:52:40,970 --> 00:52:39,359 pure light it's pure energy and it's 1100 00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:40,980 only the bubble universes that are 1101 00:52:51,830 --> 00:52:46,310 three-dimensional so with the right 1102 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:51,840 understanding the Mystics are able to 1103 00:52:57,859 --> 00:52:54,570 not only transcend their physical bodies 1104 00:53:01,870 --> 00:52:57,869 but they could roam that broader reality 1105 00:53:05,339 --> 00:53:01,880 that huge vast reality of 1106 00:53:07,710 --> 00:53:05,349 two-dimensional energy and other 1107 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:07,720 bubble universes they could run that at 1108 00:53:16,019 --> 00:53:11,410 will well some people say I should live 1109 00:53:18,839 --> 00:53:16,029 in a bubble and it's fascinating you 1110 00:53:20,609 --> 00:53:18,849 know I I don't think I'll ever get bored 1111 00:53:22,499 --> 00:53:20,619 talking about all the different 1112 00:53:25,049 --> 00:53:22,509 possibilities out there because there is 1113 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:25,059 just there's so many things I don't get 1114 00:53:29,069 --> 00:53:26,890 and you know I have to put this on 1115 00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:29,079 record and I'm curious what you 1116 00:53:34,589 --> 00:53:31,150 suggested people like might like myself 1117 00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,599 when it comes to meditation I suck at it 1118 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:37,359 I fall right to sleep I can't do it I 1119 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,170 just like you know what and I find that 1120 00:53:47,130 --> 00:53:42,160 meditation and being in an altered state 1121 00:53:50,339 --> 00:53:47,140 is definitely a way of learning that we 1122 00:53:51,749 --> 00:53:50,349 need we do it in our sleep but you know 1123 00:53:54,329 --> 00:53:51,759 to be able to control it through 1124 00:53:56,609 --> 00:53:54,339 meditation and to explore I think it's 1125 00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:56,619 so necessary what what do you tell 1126 00:54:00,450 --> 00:53:59,249 people how to even begin to do something 1127 00:54:02,819 --> 00:54:00,460 meditation 1128 00:54:05,789 --> 00:54:02,829 well the main thing I tell people is 1129 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:05,799 that it's worth every minute of trying 1130 00:54:12,329 --> 00:54:08,710 that you're not going to be instantly 1131 00:54:15,630 --> 00:54:12,339 able to have deep experiences no more 1132 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:15,640 than you are instantly able to take you 1133 00:54:23,759 --> 00:54:19,210 know play a new sport at a high level on 1134 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:23,769 day one you do have to practice but it 1135 00:54:31,019 --> 00:54:28,079 is so worth it if I could have one wish 1136 00:54:34,759 --> 00:54:31,029 granted it would be that everybody in 1137 00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:34,769 the world would understand how blissful 1138 00:54:39,930 --> 00:54:37,839 they can be in meditation it's just 1139 00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:39,940 simply the most wonderful experience you 1140 00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:42,190 will ever have in your life if you can 1141 00:54:48,930 --> 00:54:44,200 stick with it and make it happen 1142 00:54:51,779 --> 00:54:48,940 oh gosh I I so wish I understand it's 1143 00:54:55,259 --> 00:54:51,789 like ah you know but I shouldn't say 1144 00:54:58,559 --> 00:54:55,269 that 100% I mean I've had some odd 1145 00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:58,569 successes and I don't know I have to get 1146 00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:01,119 your advice on that and how to do the I 1147 00:55:05,849 --> 00:55:04,089 guess step 1 step 2 step 3 like what are 1148 00:55:07,859 --> 00:55:05,859 some of the the good ways to go about 1149 00:55:09,299 --> 00:55:07,869 doing that but we've got to get to our 1150 00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:09,309 break you guys you're listening to me 1151 00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,049 Heidi Hollis the Outlander and we will 1152 00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:16,310 welcome back everybody you listening to 1153 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,180 me Heidi Hollis the Outlander and we 1154 00:55:22,430 --> 00:55:20,400 have Joseph Shelby and we're having some 1155 00:55:26,540 --> 00:55:22,440 really interesting conversation here I 1156 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:26,550 was asking you about meditation and I am 1157 00:55:31,550 --> 00:55:28,290 a vixx called 1158 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:31,560 person I don't know why I can't do it I 1159 00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:36,330 fall asleep but oddly okay I've had some 1160 00:55:42,170 --> 00:55:39,510 successes and one time I don't even know 1161 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:42,180 what to tell you I was like okay I'm 1162 00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:43,890 really gonna do it this time I'm gonna 1163 00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:47,190 really meditate and see where I go and I 1164 00:55:51,590 --> 00:55:48,300 am not kidding you 1165 00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:51,600 I shot straight up into outer space and 1166 00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,270 I'm going whoa and I'm just like hang in 1167 00:55:59,090 --> 00:55:56,640 there and I'm like I'm really here and I 1168 00:56:02,120 --> 00:55:59,100 start like this red plasma like stuff 1169 00:56:04,370 --> 00:56:02,130 floating by I'm like and I'm like hello 1170 00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,380 is anybody you know it was the strangest 1171 00:56:10,910 --> 00:56:06,960 thing and I'm like oh that's what people 1172 00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:10,920 say they can do so is that common for 1173 00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:13,200 people to have difficulty and to have 1174 00:56:18,410 --> 00:56:15,480 weird success at odd times I don't know 1175 00:56:20,330 --> 00:56:18,420 well I think it's very common for for 1176 00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:20,340 people to have difficulty because it 1177 00:56:30,350 --> 00:56:25,920 what the underlying goal of meditation 1178 00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:30,360 is is to help you become aware of things 1179 00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:32,790 that are not your body and not your 1180 00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:37,380 thoughts and for most of us that's what 1181 00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:40,110 we're aware of all of our waking hours 1182 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:44,310 so to to learn to get beyond that is in 1183 00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:46,530 fact a challenge what I find most 1184 00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:50,390 helpful is for people to practice 1185 00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:55,110 techniques if you just sit and say okay 1186 00:56:59,930 --> 00:56:58,140 I'm meditating now it can be incredibly 1187 00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,940 frustrating because in fact what you 1188 00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:01,680 continue to do is what you were doing 1189 00:57:06,290 --> 00:57:03,870 before which is you think about things 1190 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:06,300 and you follow some train of thought 1191 00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:07,650 until you've forgotten you're even 1192 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:09,660 trying to meditate but if you do a 1193 00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:13,290 technique and what if a very simple one 1194 00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:19,320 is to watch your breath and as you as 1195 00:57:31,850 --> 00:57:23,160 you inhale to say 1196 00:57:38,050 --> 00:57:31,860 I am and as you exhale you say he or God 1197 00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:38,060 or Jesus or peace or love whatever you 1198 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:41,700 feel comfortable doing and just with the 1199 00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:45,330 inhalation say I am and with the 1200 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:51,720 exhalation he I am he because what 1201 00:57:58,270 --> 00:57:54,410 happens is when you don't give your mind 1202 00:58:02,450 --> 00:57:58,280 something to think about it thinks about 1203 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:02,460 everything so the technique is really 1204 00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:04,890 helpful and it concentrates your mind on 1205 00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:10,830 one simple thing sit still be as you 1206 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:12,840 know kind of fight the impulse to fidget 1207 00:58:21,770 --> 00:58:17,010 and to move and if you stick with it 1208 00:58:26,330 --> 00:58:21,780 even for a week or two you will find 1209 00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:26,340 that your breath slows way down and that 1210 00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:31,710 you start to feel interiorized it's a 1211 00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:35,940 little bit difficult to describe but you 1212 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:38,700 feel like you're you're still in your 1213 00:58:45,050 --> 00:58:41,450 body you're still aware of your body but 1214 00:58:50,180 --> 00:58:45,060 it's beginning to relax and let go and 1215 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:50,190 release the normal tension that we carry 1216 00:58:57,260 --> 00:58:54,450 in our bodies and it's very very nice 1217 00:58:59,840 --> 00:58:57,270 feeling it's very very positive feeling 1218 00:59:05,000 --> 00:58:59,850 you've got a very calming voice do you 1219 00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:05,010 do like audio tape see well I don't 1220 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:08,820 actually myself but there there are many 1221 00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:13,170 of them I can recommend a an app that an 1222 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:15,780 organization I'm connected with just 1223 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:17,880 developed and it's just simply called 1224 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,520 the Ananda a NAMD a Ananda meditation 1225 00:59:30,350 --> 00:59:25,200 app you can get it on iTunes you can get 1226 00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:30,360 it on Android and it is full of guided 1227 00:59:36,590 --> 00:59:33,240 meditations that some of which are based 1228 00:59:39,710 --> 00:59:36,600 on that that basic tech 1229 00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:39,720 I just mentioned nice there's a question 1230 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:41,310 that popped up in the chat room by 1231 00:59:46,190 --> 00:59:43,890 Trish's asking if you have to have any 1232 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:46,200 religious conviction to repeat this type 1233 00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:51,810 of mantra no I don't think so you have 1234 00:59:57,770 --> 00:59:55,280 to have some openness that there is 1235 01:00:01,520 --> 00:59:57,780 something to experience if you're 1236 01:00:04,940 --> 01:00:01,530 completely skeptical you're probably 1237 01:00:06,830 --> 01:00:04,950 going to resist the whole idea of 1238 01:00:08,510 --> 01:00:06,840 relaxing into this other state of 1239 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:08,520 consciousness but if you're at least 1240 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:12,090 just open to the thought and most people 1241 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:15,090 as you are alluding earlier many people 1242 01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:18,090 have these kind of experiences by 1243 01:00:24,350 --> 01:00:21,510 accident maybe they were at the beach 1244 01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:24,360 and they were watching the waves roll in 1245 01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,260 and suddenly they realized that you know 1246 01:00:35,210 --> 01:00:30,960 five minutes that gone by and they have 1247 01:00:37,550 --> 01:00:35,220 just been enjoying a very pleasant state 1248 01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:37,560 of being where they let down and they 1249 01:00:45,980 --> 01:00:41,040 relaxed so there's a lot of ways that we 1250 01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:45,990 start to let go of our tension to let go 1251 01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,030 of our just constant mental chatter how 1252 01:00:57,110 --> 01:00:53,280 long do you suggest people first try it 1253 01:00:59,420 --> 01:00:57,120 for 10 15 20 minutes or well I would say 1254 01:01:01,490 --> 01:00:59,430 10 minutes but I would also say if you 1255 01:01:05,570 --> 01:01:01,500 can't do it 10 minutes don't feel like 1256 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:05,580 that's some magic number if you can if 1257 01:01:09,890 --> 01:01:06,930 you can only do it for five minutes 1258 01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:09,900 you only do it for two minutes do it but 1259 01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:11,310 do it with the intention that you're 1260 01:01:17,630 --> 01:01:14,310 gonna do it the next day in the next day 1261 01:01:21,350 --> 01:01:17,640 and the next day because the two minutes 1262 01:01:25,070 --> 01:01:21,360 will only be a start but a start is 1263 01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:25,080 better than deciding I can't do this or 1264 01:01:31,130 --> 01:01:28,830 this isn't for me just just keep working 1265 01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:31,140 at it it's really there's work are there 1266 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:33,630 other steps that come into it like you 1267 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:36,810 start to visualize or focus on something 1268 01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:38,850 as you get better at it right you and 1269 01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:41,400 then you can increase your time and aim 1270 01:01:47,090 --> 01:01:44,220 for the stars if you want huh yes no 1271 01:01:48,650 --> 01:01:47,100 there's no limit to it we're really 1272 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:48,660 talking about getting people over the 1273 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:49,170 hurdle of 1274 01:01:56,359 --> 01:01:51,690 starting but once you get a taste for it 1275 01:01:59,150 --> 01:01:56,369 and you perhaps to dip into things like 1276 01:02:02,890 --> 01:01:59,160 the Ananda meditation app you'll find 1277 01:02:05,299 --> 01:02:02,900 that there are a lot of very moving 1278 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:05,309 guided meditations that you can follow 1279 01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:08,130 that help you again get out of your 1280 01:02:15,740 --> 01:02:12,809 normal thought pattern and guide you 1281 01:02:19,579 --> 01:02:15,750 into expanding into space expanding into 1282 01:02:23,089 --> 01:02:19,589 your heart expanding with light there's 1283 01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:23,099 a lot of ways to to bring that 1284 01:02:30,170 --> 01:02:27,510 experience to yourself now we have to 1285 01:02:33,049 --> 01:02:30,180 get into this title of your book itself 1286 01:02:36,020 --> 01:02:33,059 says the physics of God so there are 1287 01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,030 scientific approaches to a lot of what 1288 01:02:40,490 --> 01:02:38,400 it is that you put in this book so how 1289 01:02:44,299 --> 01:02:40,500 about diving in a little bit into that 1290 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:44,309 angle yeah the the heart of the book is 1291 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:50,400 really about how the discipline of 1292 01:02:57,799 --> 01:02:54,210 physics the discipline of biology 1293 01:03:03,890 --> 01:02:57,809 medicine neuroscience all have made 1294 01:03:06,859 --> 01:03:03,900 discoveries that support subtle reality 1295 01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:06,869 they don't tend to get the attention 1296 01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:11,400 that what I think of as the scientific 1297 01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:16,260 materialists put forward but there's 1298 01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:20,160 some amazing confirmation of things I 1299 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:24,049 already mentioned earlier about the 1300 01:03:32,420 --> 01:03:28,290 string theory positing this basically 1301 01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:32,430 infinite ocean of energy that they refer 1302 01:03:38,089 --> 01:03:34,319 to as the bulk and I call the energy 1303 01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:38,099 verse in which there could be millions 1304 01:03:47,450 --> 01:03:43,500 of universes this is a very very good 1305 01:03:49,460 --> 01:03:47,460 description of the way some spiritual 1306 01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:49,470 traditions talk about heaven that you 1307 01:03:59,089 --> 01:03:52,910 have this whole realm of subtle energy 1308 01:04:01,039 --> 01:03:59,099 that is basically because of this 1309 01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:01,049 connection to the bubble universes is 1310 01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:02,790 basically the 1311 01:04:09,380 --> 01:04:05,400 the seat of knowledge and information 1312 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:09,390 and intelligence that creates these 1313 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:12,450 bubble universes so string theory and 1314 01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:14,130 theory in particular which is a branch 1315 01:04:22,750 --> 01:04:17,220 of string theory really kind of gives us 1316 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:22,760 a location for the heavens it gives us a 1317 01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:28,050 confirmation of subtle energy as a very 1318 01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:29,880 real thing it's subtle in the sense that 1319 01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:34,080 it's unmeasurable in our physical world 1320 01:04:40,430 --> 01:04:36,180 by physical instruments but it 1321 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:40,440 nonetheless exists another area that 1322 01:04:45,140 --> 01:04:43,410 most people don't realize with science 1323 01:04:47,660 --> 01:04:45,150 per day particularly in physics is 1324 01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:47,670 there's a whole school of thought that 1325 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:53,359 is endorsed by a lot of very well-known 1326 01:04:59,410 --> 01:04:55,130 physicists in the world of physics 1327 01:05:05,359 --> 01:04:59,420 Einstein was one of them Eugene Wigner 1328 01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:05,369 John Wheeler John von Neumann Heisenberg 1329 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:08,880 if you make a much of a study of physics 1330 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:12,170 at all you can't help but run into these 1331 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:15,290 people and their discoveries and their 1332 01:05:23,180 --> 01:05:18,650 contributions to physics yet all of them 1333 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:23,190 believed that consciousness was an 1334 01:05:30,050 --> 01:05:28,050 underlying reality to energy and energy 1335 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:30,060 and turn and underlying reality of 1336 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:35,690 matter and that there are whole 1337 01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:38,010 mathematical systems that have been 1338 01:05:45,050 --> 01:05:40,260 developed particularly by a man named 1339 01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:45,060 David Bohm that mathematically support 1340 01:05:51,590 --> 01:05:47,640 this notion that consciousness is the 1341 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:51,600 ground of all reality and a connection 1342 01:05:58,010 --> 01:05:54,710 between the consciousness that is 1343 01:06:00,320 --> 01:05:58,020 posited by these luminaries of physics 1344 01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:00,330 and the consciousness that's described 1345 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:02,430 by the mystics and the saints and sages 1346 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:05,970 of all religious traditions is the same 1347 01:06:10,580 --> 01:06:08,970 thing the the physicists are talking 1348 01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:10,590 about it in a very impersonal way 1349 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:14,609 they're reducing it to equations and 1350 01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:16,170 mystics are talking about it in a very 1351 01:06:21,289 --> 01:06:18,089 personal way as if as a direct 1352 01:06:24,460 --> 01:06:21,299 experience of bliss and love and an 1353 01:06:29,299 --> 01:06:24,470 infinite consciousness but they both 1354 01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:29,309 describe how its warp and woof of the 1355 01:06:34,849 --> 01:06:32,640 entire universe in in a very similar way 1356 01:06:36,529 --> 01:06:34,859 so this is what I love to doing in my 1357 01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:36,539 book the physics of God and what I talk 1358 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:40,880 about in in my classes and courses is 1359 01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:45,210 what is it in science that supports this 1360 01:06:51,289 --> 01:06:49,640 more expansive view of reality Oh 1361 01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:51,299 fascinating 1362 01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:55,710 my goodness I you know what I can't help 1363 01:07:00,079 --> 01:06:57,690 but to ask well you're talking about 1364 01:07:03,499 --> 01:07:00,089 these bubble universes and string theory 1365 01:07:06,109 --> 01:07:03,509 and I you know okay there's infinite 1366 01:07:08,859 --> 01:07:06,119 universes out there potentially there 1367 01:07:11,479 --> 01:07:08,869 are some souls of people here who 1368 01:07:15,049 --> 01:07:11,489 honestly don't feel like they're from 1369 01:07:17,479 --> 01:07:15,059 here but when people have these 1370 01:07:21,049 --> 01:07:17,489 near-death experiences or these mystical 1371 01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:21,059 experiences they seem to ring kind of 1372 01:07:26,329 --> 01:07:23,700 similar no matter what is it because of 1373 01:07:28,579 --> 01:07:26,339 locality like how close a certain bubble 1374 01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:28,589 universe is this is what this heaven 1375 01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:30,329 like place with the crystal buildings 1376 01:07:36,349 --> 01:07:33,960 and all look like I mean is that just 1377 01:07:38,420 --> 01:07:36,359 because that's our bubble we go to for 1378 01:07:41,289 --> 01:07:38,430 these mystical experiences though I've 1379 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:41,299 heard of people including myself having 1380 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:44,160 odd little memories of other planets 1381 01:07:54,289 --> 01:07:48,210 even you know the Mystics say that we're 1382 01:07:58,220 --> 01:07:54,299 drawn to a zone a realm a planet 1383 01:08:02,049 --> 01:07:58,230 an astral planet that resonates with our 1384 01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:02,059 consciousness so like like attracts like 1385 01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:06,299 but in the long journey of the soul to 1386 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:09,359 to come back to full awareness of that 1387 01:08:15,849 --> 01:08:11,970 infinite consciousness we might have 1388 01:08:19,519 --> 01:08:15,859 been drawn to many many many different 1389 01:08:21,709 --> 01:08:19,529 astral locations and that those those 1390 01:08:24,589 --> 01:08:21,719 are there within us as memories they're 1391 01:08:28,220 --> 01:08:24,599 buried deep because we tend to only use 1392 01:08:30,050 --> 01:08:28,230 the memories of this life but they 1393 01:08:33,789 --> 01:08:30,060 can come to us in dreams they can come 1394 01:08:37,220 --> 01:08:33,799 to us in in moments of meditation 1395 01:08:41,900 --> 01:08:37,230 because they're very real experiences 1396 01:08:44,570 --> 01:08:41,910 yeah so and no you're of the belief too 1397 01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:44,580 that say if somebody had a past life and 1398 01:08:50,030 --> 01:08:47,580 they lost an arm they may be born 1399 01:08:52,220 --> 01:08:50,040 without an arm in this lifetime is how 1400 01:08:56,269 --> 01:08:52,230 does that kind of thing carryover that 1401 01:09:00,200 --> 01:08:56,279 it actually manifests well I've never 1402 01:09:02,420 --> 01:09:00,210 heard that one precisely I can imagine a 1403 01:09:08,599 --> 01:09:02,430 scenario where they lost a life a lost 1404 01:09:11,780 --> 01:09:08,609 an arm in a previous life and came into 1405 01:09:14,539 --> 01:09:11,790 this life with that fear that they would 1406 01:09:18,170 --> 01:09:14,549 lose an arm and lo and behold they do 1407 01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:18,180 lose an arm because they're attracting 1408 01:09:23,809 --> 01:09:20,430 to themselves that experience based on 1409 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:23,819 their their prior fear but they do say 1410 01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:28,410 that when you're born you're born with a 1411 01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:34,950 certain DNA potential of that that might 1412 01:09:43,070 --> 01:09:38,310 determine some of how you look but that 1413 01:09:46,910 --> 01:09:43,080 if you have a strong personality a 1414 01:09:51,140 --> 01:09:46,920 strong sense of who you are you might 1415 01:09:53,420 --> 01:09:51,150 begin to override that DNA and look more 1416 01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:53,430 and more like you did look in your last 1417 01:10:06,500 --> 01:09:58,020 lifetime so if we say that's the milk 1418 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:06,510 man's kid that's what it wasn't a swap 1419 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:08,610 at the hospital or anything 1420 01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:12,050 well I can't rule out the hospital swap 1421 01:10:19,580 --> 01:10:16,110 but you can they have many many studies 1422 01:10:22,130 --> 01:10:19,590 of identical twins have shown that some 1423 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:22,140 of them remain very similar in the way 1424 01:10:28,270 --> 01:10:24,090 they look throughout their lives but 1425 01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:28,280 many don't yeah many begin to veer off 1426 01:10:33,650 --> 01:10:30,960 they don't look so radically different 1427 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:33,660 that you wouldn't on looking at them 1428 01:10:38,690 --> 01:10:35,730 realize that they were twins but they 1429 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:38,700 certainly don't look close and in fact 1430 01:10:42,150 --> 01:10:40,450 one of the amazing 1431 01:10:48,810 --> 01:10:42,160 things that has been discovered again 1432 01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:48,820 fairly recently in genetics is that what 1433 01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:51,070 it used to be considered that our DNA 1434 01:10:58,290 --> 01:10:54,580 was fixed from birth the DNA we were 1435 01:11:02,490 --> 01:10:58,300 born with would determine how we were 1436 01:11:04,770 --> 01:11:02,500 susceptible to diseases how we aged what 1437 01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:04,780 physical kind of abilities we might have 1438 01:11:12,570 --> 01:11:08,710 that that was all fixed that whole model 1439 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:12,580 is completely gone now and they have 1440 01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:17,890 found that we can activate DNA that we 1441 01:11:25,050 --> 01:11:21,670 were born with but was inactive so we 1442 01:11:29,820 --> 01:11:25,060 can basically turn on and turn off genes 1443 01:11:33,180 --> 01:11:29,830 in our cells so that's what twins do who 1444 01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:33,190 fear is the day of they have discovered 1445 01:11:39,870 --> 01:11:36,670 that the DNA that's activated in one 1446 01:11:42,650 --> 01:11:39,880 twin and the DNA that's activated in 1447 01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:42,660 another twin can be very very different 1448 01:11:49,860 --> 01:11:47,860 later in their lives that is I you know 1449 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:49,870 I know a lot of people that would love 1450 01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:52,570 to know how to activate or inactivate 1451 01:11:58,850 --> 01:11:56,320 some of their genes including the one 1452 01:12:02,100 --> 01:11:58,860 that causes certain people to be 1453 01:12:05,490 --> 01:12:02,110 predisposed to become addicts you know 1454 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:05,500 or have high blood pressure yeah you can 1455 01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:09,970 by by changing your thought patterns by 1456 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:12,670 changing your habits by changing your 1457 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:16,090 diet by including exercise by doing 1458 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:18,610 basically any positive thing and 1459 01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:21,210 especially I'll plug it once more 1460 01:12:29,490 --> 01:12:26,590 meditation yeah you activate genes just 1461 01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:29,500 by doing those things and you not only 1462 01:12:38,610 --> 01:12:34,380 activate genes that encourage a positive 1463 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:38,620 health but you also deactivate genes 1464 01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:40,930 that make you susceptible to things like 1465 01:12:47,130 --> 01:12:43,870 drug addiction or particular kinds of 1466 01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:47,140 diseases so in other words you're 1467 01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:49,510 telling people that they should have a 1468 01:12:55,370 --> 01:12:51,670 new year's resolution to change your 1469 01:13:01,220 --> 01:12:59,060 hone in on your jeans and just you do 1470 01:13:03,979 --> 01:13:01,230 this through meditation and prayer then 1471 01:13:06,890 --> 01:13:03,989 you're saying to say whatever it is God 1472 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:06,900 fix those please I don't want that I 1473 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:09,449 don't want this either well in a very 1474 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:12,180 real way you fix them praying to God 1475 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:14,610 would elevate your consciousness and 1476 01:13:19,820 --> 01:13:17,449 elevating your consciousness would 1477 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:19,830 change those teens there was an 1478 01:13:28,010 --> 01:13:24,930 experiment done with men who suffered 1479 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:28,020 from forget what it was exactly but they 1480 01:13:33,530 --> 01:13:30,449 had a real medical condition that was 1481 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:33,540 not life-threatening but would severely 1482 01:13:41,570 --> 01:13:36,090 limit their quality of life and they put 1483 01:13:44,180 --> 01:13:41,580 them on a regimen of exercise diet that 1484 01:13:46,689 --> 01:13:44,190 they all adhere to for about three 1485 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:46,699 months and the end of those three months 1486 01:13:57,050 --> 01:13:51,290 they tested them and they had activated 1487 01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:57,060 7,000 genes Wow how so we re 1488 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:01,040 activate/deactivate genes every day oh 1489 01:14:08,450 --> 01:14:03,930 that's uh that's something I can say 1490 01:14:10,970 --> 01:14:08,460 I've never heard of so and these are all 1491 01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:10,980 the good genes we're pretty certain that 1492 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:13,860 it wasn't well when we do positive 1493 01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:16,530 behaviors when we do positive behaviors 1494 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:19,380 we activate the genes that support those 1495 01:14:23,870 --> 01:14:21,330 positive behaviors all right we take 1496 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:23,880 this when we do negative behaviors we 1497 01:14:28,430 --> 01:14:25,530 activate the genes that support the 1498 01:14:32,209 --> 01:14:28,440 negative behaviors the Neanderthal genes 1499 01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:32,219 come forward huh the knuckle-dragging 1500 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:34,980 genes so we've got a focus it makes 1501 01:14:39,380 --> 01:14:37,410 sense though it's like oh there's so 1502 01:14:40,970 --> 01:14:39,390 many sayings that are like you know what 1503 01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:40,980 you do want to others comes on to you 1504 01:14:46,250 --> 01:14:43,440 type of thing and it's like and it truly 1505 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:46,260 can from the inside out so that's 1506 01:14:51,620 --> 01:14:49,290 fascinating so much more mutable then 1507 01:14:53,870 --> 01:14:51,630 then we tend to think where we are not 1508 01:14:56,060 --> 01:14:53,880 these fixed physical bodies or put 1509 01:14:58,970 --> 01:14:56,070 another way these fixed physical bodies 1510 01:15:01,310 --> 01:14:58,980 are not in fact fixed I'll try to tell 1511 01:15:02,419 --> 01:15:01,320 you a brief thing here I know we have a 1512 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:02,429 little bit of totally a little bit of 1513 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:06,090 time left but there are clinical studies 1514 01:15:11,899 --> 01:15:08,489 none of people who are multiple 1515 01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:11,909 personality disorder suffers and 1516 01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:14,159 everybody pretty much commonly knows 1517 01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:16,500 that these people have different 1518 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:18,900 personality types what's less known is 1519 01:15:24,189 --> 01:15:22,050 that when those personalities come in 1520 01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:24,199 and the previous personality goes out 1521 01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:28,340 they experience physiological changes 1522 01:15:38,660 --> 01:15:33,719 instantaneously scars scars appear and 1523 01:15:40,820 --> 01:15:38,670 dishonor moles appear and disappear o1 1524 01:15:44,660 --> 01:15:40,830 personality was a drug addict and would 1525 01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:44,670 have needle tracks on his arm when the 1526 01:15:50,660 --> 01:15:47,030 next personality comes in they disappear 1527 01:15:55,209 --> 01:15:50,670 some personalities change their eye 1528 01:15:58,419 --> 01:15:55,219 color wow that sounds like possession 1529 01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:58,429 well in a sense it is because each 1530 01:16:04,189 --> 01:16:01,679 personality that comes in comes in with 1531 01:16:07,209 --> 01:16:04,199 their own subconscious mind and their 1532 01:16:09,890 --> 01:16:07,219 own subconscious mind is full of their 1533 01:16:11,689 --> 01:16:09,900 deeply held convictions about who they 1534 01:16:14,290 --> 01:16:11,699 are what they look like what the state 1535 01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:14,300 of their health form of their body and 1536 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:19,980 that conviction is so fundamental that 1537 01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:22,010 when that personality comes in 1538 01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:25,440 instantaneously makes the body conform 1539 01:16:30,830 --> 01:16:28,710 to that image I saw a movie recently I 1540 01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:30,840 want to say it was called identity and 1541 01:16:37,459 --> 01:16:33,420 it was a multiple multiple disorder 1542 01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:37,469 person as the main character who he and 1543 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:39,719 his psychiatrists were trying to prove 1544 01:16:44,979 --> 01:16:41,810 to the world that the different 1545 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:44,989 personalities were truly individual 1546 01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:48,570 beings and like one was diabetic and the 1547 01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,070 others weren't or something and it was 1548 01:16:53,930 --> 01:16:51,840 like wow you know it's things like that 1549 01:16:55,129 --> 01:16:53,940 and and here you're talking about this 1550 01:16:57,709 --> 01:16:55,139 I'm like oh my gosh you just saw this 1551 01:16:59,570 --> 01:16:57,719 movie on that that's um that's really 1552 01:17:03,020 --> 01:16:59,580 that takes things to a whole other level 1553 01:17:06,430 --> 01:17:03,030 and it lets you know that if we believe 1554 01:17:09,290 --> 01:17:06,440 things strong enough it can happen and 1555 01:17:10,820 --> 01:17:09,300 I've witnessed that for personally and 1556 01:17:13,339 --> 01:17:10,830 I've seen it with others who fully 1557 01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:13,349 anticipate something to happen and I'll 1558 01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:15,960 tell you briefly I was yeses sometime 1559 01:17:18,859 --> 01:17:17,310 ago I was playing video game and 1560 01:17:19,820 --> 01:17:18,869 swapping between two different 1561 01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:19,830 cartridges 1562 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:23,840 for the same game Mario excuse me and 1563 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:26,130 one of the games allows you to continue 1564 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:28,170 the other one does it I'm playing my 1565 01:17:31,010 --> 01:17:29,730 friend comes in she goes off you gotta 1566 01:17:33,890 --> 01:17:31,020 start all over again because you died 1567 01:17:35,540 --> 01:17:33,900 I'm like no I could continue and sure 1568 01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:35,550 enough the screen pops up it allows me 1569 01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:40,110 to continue though it did not exist it 1570 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,910 was the strangest thing it's just like 1571 01:17:44,330 --> 01:17:43,440 that doesn't happen and it never 1572 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:44,340 happened again 1573 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:46,410 once I realized it wasn't really a 1574 01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:50,370 reality of the game now our minds are 1575 01:17:56,810 --> 01:17:54,150 very very very powerful we we share 1576 01:18:00,530 --> 01:17:56,820 God's mind we share the infinite 1577 01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:00,540 intelligence we just don't use it very 1578 01:18:10,340 --> 01:18:06,630 well we heard as children we are unaware 1579 01:18:14,180 --> 01:18:10,350 of the fact that we are manifesting the 1580 01:18:17,060 --> 01:18:14,190 bodies that we have yeah and we change 1581 01:18:19,370 --> 01:18:17,070 the environment I mean how could I have 1582 01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,380 encouraged a game to do something just 1583 01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:21,600 the weirdest thing but gosh we're coming 1584 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:22,950 to the bottom of the show yet your 1585 01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:26,880 website is fizz physics and God calm and 1586 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:29,340 you have an event coming up in April for 1587 01:18:33,940 --> 01:18:31,290 people to go check out as well yeah I 1588 01:18:36,410 --> 01:18:33,950 have several events anybody who's in the 1589 01:18:40,750 --> 01:18:36,420 Sacramento area might be interested in 1590 01:18:42,290 --> 01:18:40,760 the healing arts festival that's held on 1591 01:18:45,050 --> 01:18:42,300 April 8th 1592 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:45,060 I forget the location but if you look up 1593 01:18:49,930 --> 01:18:47,370 healing arts festival you can't miss it 1594 01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:49,940 and I'm speaking on Saturday afternoon 1595 01:18:58,010 --> 01:18:53,310 I'll be in Seattle on April 13th and 1596 01:19:08,210 --> 01:18:58,020 14th I'll be back in Sacramento on April 1597 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:08,220 20th and 21st I have a number of other 1598 01:19:12,590 --> 01:19:10,890 things in the works so you know please 1599 01:19:14,290 --> 01:19:12,600 come check out the events if you are 1600 01:19:16,990 --> 01:19:14,300 interested I'm going to be doing a 1601 01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:17,000 webinar series so if you're not 1602 01:19:22,490 --> 01:19:19,440 physically near anything I'm doing this 1603 01:19:27,050 --> 01:19:22,500 would allow you to take six mark class 1604 01:19:29,330 --> 01:19:27,060 series as well as a interviews with 1605 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:29,340 other scientists like Amit Goswami and 1606 01:19:34,590 --> 01:19:32,530 Joan Morrison case Wow 1607 01:19:37,050 --> 01:19:34,600 that's fascinating so go to physics and 1608 01:19:38,370 --> 01:19:37,060 God calm and I just say thank you so 1609 01:19:41,220 --> 01:19:38,380 much for coming on the show this is a 1610 01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:41,230 lot of fun Joseph Selby and we'll have 1611 01:19:46,170 --> 01:19:43,900 to have you back on again no please do 1612 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:46,180 it's been my pleasure yeah so you guys 1613 01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:47,290 would come to the bottom of another 1614 01:19:52,170 --> 01:19:49,630 program remember you can catch me here 1615 01:19:53,490 --> 01:19:52,180 every Friday at 8 p.m. central 9 p.m. 1616 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:53,500 Eastern you've been listening to me 1617 01:19:58,530 --> 01:19:56,050 Heidi Hollis the Outlander remembering